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Artists
Statement
Interview
Biography
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You
write that "efficiency and economy" drove your decision
to switch from watercolors to collage. But you also connect
your work to the artistic tradition of collage. Can you describe
how these material considerations segued, merged or otherwise
connected to your more conscious links to previous collage artists?
As a young artist, my first approach to collage was formal.
I was pasting down shapes and objects to solve design problems.
But I realized almost immediately that I could be selective
about my image choices, and it served my longing to assert psychological
meaning. Chiefly, I was cutting out a lot of pictures of women,
and someone who wrote for the university newspaper promptly
called my work "feminist." Though at the time I was
really just making collages that expressed my frustration about
recalcitrant boyfriends, I was comfortable with the label. Voila!
I was politicized.
My
first encounter with satirical collage was the piece by Richard
Hamilton (Just What Is It That Makes Today's Homes So Different,
So Appealing? 1956) in one of my art history texts. I loved
the way he created a populated interior space using magazine
cutouts, and I was quick to absorb that information. The work
of Romare Bearden and Max Ernst also influenced me at the
time. But I was still making flat, patterned, pretty, formal
pictures until graduate school. In that situation, I was (I
still am) surrounded by artists for whom discussions of the
voluptuousness of paint and vicissitudes of color spawn nirvana.
Out of boredom, I felt called upon to defend my use of collage
as a medium. Which led me to the work of John Heartfield and
Hannah Hoch. There were no women artists represented in my
art history text. All my professors in both art departments
were male. So gender equity continued to be a favorite subject
of my work.
How do you work? Are you constantly clipping images you
find in magazines? Do you file them in labeled folders? Do
the images trigger an artistic idea or does an idea send you
looking for particular images?
I
am indeed constantly clipping images from magazines, stealing
pages from waiting rooms, etc. I store the poster-size material
in flat files, and cutouts in big expandable labeled 18 x
12 inch folders. Here's a current list of categories: Accordion
(& other musical instruments); Architecture; Dissent;
Epic; Face & Head; Fire; Flesh; Flora; Food; Group (my
favorite category, full of crowd scenes); Illuminated Ms.;
Inquisition (this includes all religious imagery); Indigenous;
Landscape; Men; Patrioticaca (sic); Objects; Pattern; Science
& Medicine; Valentine/Wedding/Xmas/Birthday; Water, and
Women. And for the current project I have a new fat folder
named "Utopia," with subcategories: Play; Work;
Psycho-spiritual; Environmental; Architectural, and Dystopia
(which includes images of Hell).
Usually,
an image triggers an idea. For example, last year I came across
a 1950s cigarette ad where a gaggle of white people-each holding
a lighted cigarette-- cavorts around a trailer. "That
looks like somebody's version of Utopia," I thought.
A composition grew around it, a whole landscape of imagery
that spoke to me of the Ideal. I had to integrate the group
(Jacob Lawrence and a bunch of other people joined the party).
Some of the landscape images had been in my files for years,
waiting for the right site.
But
I also work the other way, for example in 1990 I felt compelled
to start a piece about the Gulf War. I knew what the text
would be, just from reading the newspaper: that infuriating
language --like "collateral damage"-- they popularized
during the bombing of the Fertile Crescent. But it took a
lot of searching to find appropriate imagery, until I put
a veiled woman in the center surrounded by crosses, and realized
the piece could be called "Sheherezade and the 1,001
Sorties." Sometimes I spend a lot of studio time hunting
through my files for something I think I cut out in 1978.
Or leafing through my 8 feet of National Geographic or four
feet of Horizon.
Friends
save magazines for me, so there's rarely a shortage of imagery.
I'm very loyal to the spirit of randomness in collage. I want
to use what comes across my table whenever possible, rather
than download something from the Internet or spend hours in
the picture files at the public library. But I can't adhere
strictly to this fundamentalist doctrine, so I occasionally
use a scanner and color photocopies to duplicate or change
the scale of things to suit my needs.
You were commissioned to do the work "Justice is Served"
for the Seattle Justice Center. You chose to honor four activists
by representing them with collages on tin food service trays.
How did you come up with this idea? How has the work been
received?
The notion to use recycled serving trays occurred when my
grandfather died, leaving behind a cupboard full of greasy
classic TV trays collected by my grandmother during the 1950s.
I began using the serving trays as a ground for collages about
social justice, mindful of the different kinds of service
people have engaged in, from the dutiful wife's heroism and
volunteerism to slavery and military duty. It seemed natural
to call the artworks Service Trays.
The
"Justice is Served" installation of trays is situated
in the elevator lobby of the courthouse, on the 10th floor,
directly below the jury assembly room. The display is very
public. I don't know how the populace has responded to that
particular work, but I've had the thrilling experience of
observing people move up to closely study and discuss my work
in other public, non-art venues. In fact, it's this field
research that's encouraged me to continue using text and detailed
imagery, because they hold the attention of the audience for
a little longer than the seven seconds most people are willing
to spend.
I
make a composition according to my own embarrassingly conservative
notion of what art looks like: it's flat, things don't dangle
or protrude from it, there's a figure you can identify as
human. and the arrangement is usually symmetrical. So from
a distance, it seduces a segment of the population that's
attracted to representational art. Up close, it's a different
story. By the time someone gets close enough to read, it's
almost too late: they might have to think about the issues
in the piece, maybe walk away angry or encouraged to make
their own statement in a creative way.
One of the first key texts on advertising was titled "The
Hidden Persuaders." Some of your works, like Big Pharma
and Twinkie Nation, appropriate advertising images to, it
seems, pull the curtain away to expose the persuaders. Do
you find naked persuasion -- propaganda -- more artistically
interesting in a landscape saturated with advertising? How
does your work reference the early Soviet experiments in collage
and photomontage?
I'm
simply inspired by the political realism of the Mexican muralists
and Soviet painters and anti-Nazi German collagists because
of their idealism and directness. The vacancy of meaning in
contemporary art makes me miserable. I'm so bored with euphemism
and obfuscation. There's so much to say! That's why I love
the artwork of Sue Coe.
And
I find the propagandistic content in the general visual climate
deeply alarming. When I walk past the two new gigantic sports
arenas in Seattle (we voted both of them down but they were
built anyway), the behemoth portraits of sports stars seem
very political to me in their soporific, narcotizing message.
It would be unthinkable to impose the naked emperor's visage
where the baseball player's face is, wouldn't it? By the time
that happens, the fans will be so deeply massaged, they won't
notice.
My
work is a reaction to the shameless propaganda of consumerism.
I am not comfortable with the "free enterprise"
mandate to make art that is beautiful and subtle: that dictum
seems prescribed by the Project for A New American Century.
Now, if the regime were one I could wholeheartedly support,
maybe I could make Abstract Expressionist landscape paintings.
You
do a lot of work on utopia. Many of the classic statements
on utopia celebrate a single, homogeneous system. But your
utopias are bursting with diversity. Is utopia for you just
another word for collage, the juxtaposition of many different
patterns and textures and images? Is utopia, like collage,
the bringing together of several simultaneously existing alternative
realities?
Sure.
I've been very happy exploring this exact concept. The project,
Dee Dee Does Utopia, has been fed by dozens of responses to
my query "What does utopia look like to you?", which
I sent out via email on Inauguration Day, 2004, as an exercise
in sanity preservation. I have been combining my depictions
of people's answers into collective collage images of the
Ideal. I didn't start out with my own answer to the question,
because I really didn't have one. But the other night I woke
from a dream where I was able to use my computer to capture
time. I could hit "save," and keep a fully three-dimensional
file of a day. Then I could hit "find" and re-enter
the day, experience it from the angles I missed the first
time around. It was so REAL. I woke up feeling so ALIVE.
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